
These kinds of conversations happen in my class, inevitably, every year. Sometimes it’s early on and sometimes it’s mid-year. But sooner rather than later, my students get the schpeil of why we don’t say particular words: faggot, retard, the ‘n’ word.…and WHY.
Especially for ‘that’s so gay‘ and ‘that’s retarded,’ I give them the alternate, “Oh, you mean to say that’s so dumb, stupid, silly, ridiculous, or crazy.”
Some years have sparked debate, around why you can’t just say ‘that’s so gay‘ if you don’t mean it, or how their friends and family say the ‘n’ word, so it’s no big deal if they do it as well…However, the debate that was sparked today in class was something I was not expecting. Needless to stay, I let the tangent we got off on flyaway with discussion, argments and high emotions. Oh, and I forgot to mention, with incredibly ignorant opinions. And not like expected 12-year-olds comments of ignorance: but instead, baffling and misguided lines of speech, which were the majority.
Here’s how it started.
We read an article about bullying. The non-fiction piece was about a girl who was bullied, who then turned the tables and started bullying people until she realized the wrongs of her ways and eventually changed. The last part of the article posted a question and a poll: Should bullies be arrested — Yes or No. We read both opinions and then started debating. Kids took turns raising their hands, sharing that bullies should be arrested so that they can’t hurt people anymore. Or that Bullies should not be arrested because they will only grow angrier in jail, come out, and bully even harder. And then some kids were in the middle, sharing that there should be harsh consquences for bullies, but not prison.
And a popular opinion which sparked the now infamous debate of THISMORNING, was that there should be a spectrum and depending on how severe you’re bullying is, you should have to go to jail. (Ex. If someone curses at you or shoves you, that’s not prison worthy. But Cyberbullying, constantly harassing or name-calling where one targets body image or race would definitely warrant a trip to jail). Most kids seemed to agree with that last opinion. This jumped into the ongoing stories which sadly keep popping up in the Media, about many kids who are so severely bullied, that they end up killing themselves. We talked about how some people can’t take the constant harrassment and they feel that suicide is the only option.
One kid raised his hand and shared a story he had seen in the news, where a gay kid was being bullied just for being gay. And that the harrassed kid ended up committing suicide. That sparked another student to raise their hand and say, “Why are people bullied just for being gay. It’s not like it’s their choice.” That set another kid off to respond with, “Yes it is. You choose to be gay. It’s not like you’re born that way…”
WHOA WHOA WHOA…back the truck up. What did the last kid say? I asked him to repeat his opinion. He said, without a doubt, that people choose to be gay. I asked how many students agreed that you aren’t born gay, but it is, in fact, a choice. More than half of the hands in the class went up! Boy, did I have my work cut out for me over the next 45 minutes (and clearly throughout the school year). I threw caution to the wind, ignored the remaining part of my lesson and started to faciliate a very raw conversation about opinion, feelings and facts. I kept reiterating that students were allowed to have whatever opinion they wanted because that was their right. And it was just my job to edcuate them as much as possible.
It was fascinating to watch the kids who were completely headstrung on homosexuality being curable or an unneeded choice, debate back and forth with the students who supported homosexuality being something that you’re born with. Every so often I would try to share some information on people being born gay, and what tomboys are, and how there’s a aspectrum of sexuality. Then a boy called out, “You’re wrong, Ms.! You’re wrong. You choose to be gay and you are wrong.”
I replied with, “You can think what you want, Chase, but I’m not wrong.”
“What do you know, Ms.?”
“Well, I’m an adult and I’ve gone to many years of school and I’ve traveled the world, encountered all kinds of people, and had a plethora (class vocab word!) of experiences and I’m sharing with you what I know to be true,” I retorted. [I bring up this student Chase, in order to refer back to him later]
I was excited about their fervor and respect to agree and disgaree with another, and then an explosion hit the conversation.
“But Ms., if two gay guys have a baby through an egg donor or something, that kid will be gay because he came from two gay fathers,” a kid shared out loud.
“Yeah, Ms.You can totally catch gay if you hang around with them too much,” another blurted out.
At this point I was baffled. I knew my students had had a different upbringing. And I was aware that some may not be as liberal as other people or children that I’ve encountered. But you know, there’s a difference of opinion. And then there’s just plain ignorance.
“Guys, you can’t turn gay. It’s not like if you hang out with someone that’s gay for a couple weeks, that that likens your chances of being gay,” I offered up.
“Yeah it does, Ms. If you spend all your time and hours with a gay person, then you could turn gay from being with them.”
Again, still baffled.
I said, “If a girl hangs around with a boy and spends all of her time with him, she is not going to, herself, start being a boy.”
That turned some of the conversation around, actually.
“Oh, Ms., I get it. Like one can’t turn the other.”
“Yeah, cause you’re born gay.”
“Yeah, you are.”
“Okay, that makes sense.”
I mean, many of the affirmative comments towards this topic were coming from students who had initially disbelieved that anyone could be born gay.
I think my shock came from the kids who actually thought you could catch being gay, as if it was a disease. And sadly, many of their opinions are a result of their upbringing and their family influence.
“But if you’re born gay, why do some people only come out when they’re much older?” a student asked.
“Well, because sometimes people come from families or communities where they are start that being gay is wrong so they suppress and push away all their natural feelings. And that’s when they grow up and as adults, realize that it’s time to truly be who they are.”
“Oohhhh. Like they were too scared to say who they were, ” a kid said.
“That happened with Ricky Martin,” a student suggested….
I asked for hands in the air and then said, “Who knows somebody gay? A friend, a family member, etc…”
Half of the hands went up. Over the next day or two, go and ask that person if they feel they were born gay.
Some kid shouts out, “No, Ms! That’s too personal!”
I go over to him and say, “Chace, do you like girls? Do you like kissing girls?”
And he replies, “We’ll, yeah.”
“Right, because you were born liking girls. So do you feel that was too personal of a question ?” I ask.
“Okay, I get it, ” Chace replies.
The conversation and debate peetered off even more into Bisexuality and Lady Gaga and how she sings about being Born This Way and why she supports gay people so much and if she’s a devil worshipper: “But Ms.! She sings about Judah! That was Jesus’ enemy!”
By the end of class, there were only 3 students remaining, with the opinion that you choose to be gay and you’re not born that way. A signicifant amount of kids had changed their initial opinion, through our class discussion.
Talk about powerful.
“I have an announcement,” Chace says out loud. “Ms. is right. You are born gay. Everything she said is true.”
And he meant it. And he is one of the kids whose opinion was drastically different from the beginning of our conversation, to the end.
The point was not to change everyone’s opinion. But instead, educate them, let them hear multiple sides and then come to their own conclusion.
4-5 separate kids came up to me at random points in the afternoon, to share that they liked how real our conversation was, and that it was important to do things like that.
Was it worth skipping the last part of my lesson? Definitely. That’s called being Effective.
~PEACE OUT FROM NTN